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The Alan Collinge Story….as told by Alan Collinge Himself

January 24th, 2008 · 5 Comments

Here is an excerpt from a blog by Americandust. I hope he doesn’t mind me reposting this. Since this site is about exposing those at Student Loan Justice, it seems appropriate to start from the top and work our way down. I find this interaction incredibly interesting because it does two things in my opinion. It shows that Alan Collinge has no real excuse to have not made payment on his loans and it shows that while he is quick to call other people names and point out their shortcomings, he becomes extremely defensive when anyone disagrees with choices that he has made which have ultimately led him to where he is today. I’ll let all of you decide for yourself. As is the case with all my posts, I am merely trying to show the other side to the Student Loan Justice story. Enjoy.

So due to a recent discussion on something political, I was informed about a Political Action Committee (you know, the evil special interest we’re always hearing about) called “student loan justice.” So I researched it’s founder, Alan Collinge. I read his story online somewhere and basically, well, Mr. Collinge, you’re an idiot.

Collinge borrowed $38,000 for school at USC (the first warning sign is that he went to USC). Anyway, he gets out of college and immediately falls for the old “consolidate your debt” thinking this will improve his student loan debt situation. Hello… paying back smaller amounts over longer times will only cost you more in the long run (slight exception where the loan’s interest rate is drastically smaller– IF they don’t charge an arm and a leg for the consolidation). So he’s already cost himself significantly more in interest payments. Next, the genius goes on to say he didn’t understand Sallie Mae was in this business to make money! I guess he thought it was ran by the government to help people… so basically it’s his fault again for not knowing something a quick Google or turning on his radio to any of the financial programs would have solved. But his story continues… He misses a payment one month and doesn’t really worry about what kind of punishment he would have (didn’t he read the contract he signed? Nope… I’m sure he didn’t). Then it takes 6 months (six!) of bills before he notices he’s being charge a late fee for that month! Six times a bill comes in higher then usual and he doesn’t notice (okay, we can add truthfulness to the list of things Mr. Collinge isn’t so good with). Then he tells us he left his then current job to find a higher paying job. He left his job just assuming he’d get hired somewhere else and make more money? Once again, I’m not sure we’re getting the truth… maybe he was fired. I hope he was fired, because if you’re dumb enough to leave you job just thinking you’ll find a better paying one without having a new job lined up, well, I hope you’re not doing any work that involves reasoning. He then bounces around from state to state… once again you have to wonder how his finances took that. He claims he applied for a deferment and didn’t get it (most people do not so he had to know that was a longshot). So of course all this time the back-interest, fees, and any other missed payments are adding up…. quick. All according to the contract he never bother reading. Then he can’t understand why the company won’t release him from the extra debt he negligently took on while trying to weasel out of his commitment. Better yet, he then tries to enter the world of defense contractor businesses, but isn’t aware that he’ll get nowhere (just like military clearance, if you’re in huge debt you are considered a threat to be easily bribed and thus a risk they will not take). Then of course he tries to turn to the classic escape plan of those foolish or evil with their money… bankruptcy. The plan B (actually, who are we kidding, plan A) of deadbeats. “Why can’t I get what I want and screw everyone else out of what they’re entitled to?” This is where it gets good… he apparently didn’t know that you can’t lose student loan debt through Bankruptcy!!! Then he blames that fact on Sallie Mae’s lobbying efforts. It’s been like that for a long time, if you didn’t know. It’s that way for a reason, if they let you default and get away with sticking it to the loaner, then everyone would do that and there would be no student loans at all. Then of course, rather than face up to his own horrible and dishonest (yes, it is dishonest to try to weasel out of a contract or escape fulfillment of your financial duties) efforts, he blames the system, starts a PAC and tries to blame it all on the high salaries of the executives that run the program he tried to screw. Seriously… you’re an idiot. Or worse, you’re a con-man. The difference between you and a thief who breaks in at night to steal is that the thief doesn’t try to get others to feel sorry for him.

Here is the response from Alan Collinge:

First of all, who the fuck are you?

Second of all, your knee jerk bullshit doesn’t fly. If what happened to me (and what is happening to millions of americans) happened to you, you’d be flying your freak flag like a fucking hippy.

Finally, Here is My story (see below) as I posted it before you took the liberty of spinning it beyond all comprehension.

Feel free to email me directly at justice@studentloanjustice.org if you would like to continue this conversation. I see you have conveniently hid all of your contact info. Whats the matter? Are you scared to stand behind your words? YOu fucking pussy.

Alan

I originally borrowed about $38,000 for both undergraduate, and graduate school, and earned 3 degrees in aerospace Engineering, plus 2 minors in Industrial Systems Engineering, and Philosophy from USC. After graduation, I consolidated with Sallie Mae. I got a fairly low paying job as associate Scientist at Caltech, and faithfully began repaying my loans. As an aside: I was slightly short one month. I called Sallie Mae, and was told over the phone that as long as I continued to pay in a timely matter, that the underpayment wouldn’t affect me. It was over 6 months later when I realized that Sallie Mae had charged me large penalties EVERY month after that for the original underpayment. I talked to them again, and they refused to take off the fees. I realized at that point that Sallie Mae was not part of the government, but rather a for-profit corporation.

My wage at Caltech wasn’t huge, and I found that after about a year or so, It was getting harder and harder to maintain the payment schedule, despite my taking a night job as a cook. In Summer, 2001, I left my job at Caltech with the belief that I would find a higher paying job. Unfortunately, the events of September 11th put an immediate chill on the economy, particularly aerospace . I proceeded to liquidate all of my assets, which included a small retirement package, and a vehicle. I left the state, and began searching for work. There was none. I applied for a hardship deferment with Sallie Mae on December 12th, 2001. They denied it, and instead place my account into default on December 13th. It would be about 2 years before I again found any type of full time employment. During this time, I worked as a cook on a remote island in Alaska (7 days per week, 92 hours per week, at a wage of about $5 per hour), did odd jobs, and cooked in 4 different restaurants in Tacoma, WA.

In April, 2003, I received a bill for nearly $80,000 from General Revenue Corporation (which is owned by Sallie Mae) on behalf of the guarantor, Edfund. I thought there must be a mistake, given that I had originally borrowed $38,000, and paid off approximately $4,000 of this. It turns out there was no-mistake- the federal law gave these people the right to add huge penalties and fees to my loan. Moreover, Sallie Mae - who had already profited at least $25,000 on my $38,000 loans (this doesn’t include interest subsidies paid to them by the federal government while I was in school), was demanding more than double what I originally borrowed to be paid in full! Sallie Mae would have profited an additional $20,000 on my $38,000 in loans had I been able to find a way to comply with their demand.

I called Edfund and repeatedly offered to begin repayment on the original debt (what I borrowed, plus interest). I even offered to repay at a higher interest rate! They refused. I couldn’t understand why a “non-profit, public benefit” corporation needed to charge so much more than the original debt.

Then, I got curious, and researched the executive salaries of Edfund. They were exploding! I dug a little deeper, and saw that there were dozens of “Edfunds” out there, all paying themselves massive increases in salaries. Then it began to make sense. I was blown away when I saw the stock bonuses that Sallie Mae executives had given themselves.

Anyhow, the loan has since been transferred to the Department of Education, who now claim that I owe about $109,000, which may as well be a million. My life has been paralyzed. My pitiful tax returns have been taken, The job I could find, helping disadvantaged businesses at a local non-profit, utilizes none of my engineering skills, pays a fraction of what I though I would be making, and is about to be garnished by yet another collection agency holding my account. I recently got another job as a tech writer at a defense company, but with my defaulted loans, my initial security clearance application was denied. I received notice two weeks ago that I am being laid off.

There is no reason for the collection agencies to accept a fair amount (i.e. what was borrowed, plus interest), and so they don’t. I have thought seriously about bankruptcy, and believe me- this is the last thing I would ever want to do- but even this option is not longer available to student borrowers thanks to the lobbying efforts of Sallie Mae.

Its really funny how people who are well connected can find ways to extract more and more money from the public without actually creating anything useful for society. I’ll never understand how anyone could live with themselves for doing that. This system is rigged, and a whole bunch of already rich people are intent on getting a LOT richer from my misfortune.

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5 responses so far ↓

  • 1 American Dust // Jan 29, 2008 at 11:49 am

    You have my full permission to use any of my writings as you see fit. You should have my email address now (as it was required) and can reach me there. I would love to continue the cause by assisting this project.

    Thanks,
    AmericanDust

  • 2 Priscilla // Jan 31, 2008 at 10:00 am

    My story is similar. I earned a Masters degree, then went through a divorce. Similar progression with my lender. Eventually the amount (because of penalties) over doubled. I have been faithfully making payments to the Dept. of Ed. for over 10 years on an income contingent plan. I commented over the phone to them a few months ago that because of the laws allowing them to inflict penalties of that size, I will never pay off the loan. (I am now in my mid-50’s.) The representative did not comment, however answered a question I have asked again and again: “will my children be responsible for the debt?” The answer given was “no”. So I suppose that I will be paying them back for the rest of my life. The payment amount will change dependent on my income, however I will STILL have paid much more than I originally would have paid with interest.

    More people should speak out against the practice of imposing penalties of these proportions. The punishment does not fit the crime, even IF someone was just plain irresponsible. It amounts to debtors prison as in times past….

  • 3 Chris // Feb 2, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    I personally believe that the debt many unknowing teenagers are being tricked into is just the new means to control the population. How can you allow a teenager who is not even old enough to drink alcohol sign their life away to predatory lenders? There is definitely something much bigger going on than what is told to us.

  • 4 Jake // Feb 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    I agree with many here that the site you have is mostly junk. I disagree also with the statements that you make saying what these people are. I though having been on the group now and reading their message think though they are lazy and not serious about what they want. They seem to not want to do anything for themselves and expect everyone to do it for them. My opinion is though they had a real cause they deserve what they get for being lazy.

  • 5 Brandon // Feb 9, 2008 at 6:03 am

    Since I can’t seem to sleep for some reason here watching “Full Metal Jacket” I figured I would troll through here.

    I will say that the above post is very right on in the only true fault of the Student Loan Justice Group. I actually pisses at least one member of the group off when I stated that they basically spend their time writing “Love letters” to politicians, and nothing more. I as well have stated a few times that they want to do it seems minimal work, for maximum results, and I agree with the statement that they seem to want others to do their work for them, while all they do is write letters.

    I actually laid out a plan of action to take in the accomplishment of their goals. This plan though isn’t an undertaking that I alone can do, but what the group needs, but rather than have group unity, and action, I was told to do something, and “Stop Philosophizing” things. I guess my ideas of group formation and national movement mean to them that they actually had to do something, and it seems we can’t have that.

    There is as well no real organization, no accountability, no real plan or course of action, and no real way of doing anything. Based on these factors, looking at it from a military view, I don’t see why the admin sees them as a threat, since they are doomed to not accomplish much in their current state. I really don’t know what they expect to accomplish, and I hate when they use the suffering of people, and still refuse to take serious action.

    What they are hoping for is the one great person, citizen, political, or media, that will carry their story and solved all their problems, failing to see that they need to be taking responsibility for themselves, and action for their cause in order to obtain their goals. This though seems a foreign concept to them as I feel it is minimal work for maximum hopes.

    I still stand behind the cause though since they are fighting for what I consider a just issue, but as the admin said it isn’t for the better of the nation, but the better of them. In this they fail to see or understand the class issue that their problem is only a sub-condition of in the United States. Rather than see the greater problem in the United States, they look only to their problem, and to be honest I don’t think they care about any other problem but theirs. In this they are more than happy to say a homeless man is in his condition for being lazy, and bringing it on himself, while in the same breath expect you to feel sorry for them, and understand their problems. This I can’t agree with since both suffering is the cause of social class.

    I agree with the admin that there are those who honestly want something for nothing, I saw it working collections with unemployed buying cell phones with no intent to pay, and even as a Marxist I can’t support this. One of the biggest myths about Marx is that his system allows the lazy to profit off those who work, where in reality he stated “From all according to their ability, to all according to their need,” and “There will be no work without reward, and no reward without work.” From this I in no way support those who want to be lazy, but I will still stand to my comments on means, class, and factors of society that cause people who want to pay to not always have the means to pay, and by which fight the harsh conditions that are then imposed on them, that in no way assist in getting out of the situation, but rather hold them too it with no hope of getting out, and personally I feel higher education should be free. This extreme action that violates Constitutional Rights, and basic Human Rights is what I stand against in this.

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